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May 2000 - December 2000

Darryl - 12/26/00 02:08:40
My Email:dervatl@yahoo.com
Subject: muffler systems

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Try these folks. If you don't see what you need, contact them. www.auto-jet.com

Wayne - 12/20/00 02:40:05
My Email:windsor837@cs.com
Subject: Exhaust Parts

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Anyone know of a source (other than Bird) for mufflers and exhaust pipe sections for 1986-88 pushers (8V92)? Seems the muffler vendor for Bird will only sell to Bird. And I cannot locate a shop that has 6" pipe or can bend the pipe.

- 12/16/00 19:02:18

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Bob Dilks - 12/15/00 23:16:27
My Email:bjmd@texoma-ok.com
Subject: Power steering pump

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Tom: Try Sure Guide in Dallas at 214/637-4077, or Delaware Valley Auto in Philadelphia at 215/338-2500. Both companies specialize in steering components for trucks and buses. Bob Dilks

Tom Meservey - 12/15/00 19:44:01
My Email:bl81uebird@aol.com
Subject: power steering pump

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I have an '81FC. The power steering pump is seeping a bit by the bottom seal. Bluebird no longer has a rebuild kit for it but would sell me one for $900.00. I contend there must be cheaper less expensive pumps around. It does not need to be replaced r ght now, but while I am having my radiator recored at $822.50, I thought I might have this taken care of too. Thanks if anyone can help me.

Jeff Kemp - 12/14/00 01:16:02
My Email:sales&peninsulaglass.com
Subject: Replacement Windows

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http://www.peninsulaglass.com

Bob Dilks - 12/12/00 20:29:39
My Email:bjmd@texoma-ok.com
Subject: Bendix cruise control

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While most problems with this system is related to low voltage at the module, a failed component is a problem because manufacture of components stopped in 1999. 3-G productions can be a help with the Bendix system as they rebuilt the modules and will als rebuild the CC5 cylinder. I think the price of a rebuilt module is $160. 3-G Productions 2970 Blystone Ste 104 Dallas TX 75220 888/269-4084

Michael Putz - 12/11/00 04:23:36
My Email:mike@putz.com
Subject: 3208 conversion

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I'm trying to install a 3208 with an Allison MT-643 into a 1963 Bluebird to replace the original 401 gas v6. I'm having problems locating parts for the 3208. It is a long block and is missing starter, alternator, brackets, fan, shroud, air cleaner, engi e mounts, tranny cooler, tranny mount, etc.. I was hoping to find an old "blown" engine and strip parts from it, but no luck. I've also heard I'll run into trouble with the "dog house". Not sure this setup will fit? Anyway, looking for comments, ideas etc that might help. My local Bluebird shop can supply eng mounts and exhuast parts if I model it after a 1983 Bird... Any reason to use different year parts? Thanx.. Michael

Derv - 12/10/00 23:53:03
My Email:dervatl@yahoo.com
Subject: cabinet facing

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Does anyone know where to get the extruded aluminum trim that is on the bottom of the overhead cabinet doors in older birds? Any advice would be helpful.

Jeff - 12/10/00 22:18:35
My Email:jamiller@iserv.net
Subject: Oil Shear

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Non-synthetic oils do start with the lower viscosity oil and add short-lived modifiers to produce the higher numbers of multi-viscosity oils, but Mobil 1 5W-30 for instance contains NO viscosity modifiers as it is multi-viscosity by nature. This is becaus the synth. oil does not thicken as much when cold, nor thin as much when hot, as the dinosaur oils on which the viscosity rating system is based. Therefore, these oils have no viscosity modifiers to break down. I don't know what DD recommends, but Holland Motor Express (who used to operate next door to Holland Motor Homes' current location) ran Mobil's synthetic Delvac 1 in their DD powered fleet for millions of successful miles. The svc. manager at the time tol me that the extended oil change interval as well as reduced internal failures was reducing fleet op. costs due to reduced vehicle down-time and increased fuel mileage. I would check with DD on their current reccomendation (and not just a local service te h.) to see if it is currently recommended (it is probably not considered to be worth the money on a low-annual mileage engine such as most of our coaches, especially with the large oil capacity of a S-60 or equiv., but is sure does fire up quickly and giv fast oil pressure on cold Michigan winters).

Bob Dilks - 12/08/00 14:37:55
My Email:bjmd@texoma-ok.com
Subject: Oil shear

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JAMiller - Because the base oil stock in multi viscosity oils is the low weight number and will not support the shear requirements of the high weight number,I have not used multi viscosity oils (dino or synthetic) in my DD 92 series engine. There are cer ain advantages to synthetic oil but to my knowledge, Detroit has not recommended a synthetic oil (multi or single viscosity) for the 92 series engines. Do you have different information on this topic.

Jeff - 12/08/00 00:18:50
My Email:jamiller@iserv.net
Subject: Oil, redi-line, chargers, and dash-lights

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I will never, never use a multi-viscosity dino oil in a diesel (that I intend to keep). The viscosity modifiers will break down and not protect the engine, they cannot even handle shear when new. The CAT manual calls for straight-weight oil, and is adequa e when used with the engine block heater, but a better solution is to use Caterpillar's synthetic multi-viscosity oil (made by Mobil) or Mobil Delvac-1 synthetic (basically the same stuff) which has excellent cold-start and pump-up performance as well as xceeding all of the dinosaur oil performance. Besides, the Cat doesn't hold much oil compared to the DD engines so the difference in price isn't that much. Also, the Cat filters are worth the extra dollar (open a box and compare one to an el-cheapo Fram). I agree whole-heartedly on the suggestion for stat-power chargers or equivalent. In fact, I'd spend the extra couple of dollars to get a three-state charger in an inverter such as the Heart Freedom series or Trace. Your batteries and flourescent lights wi l last much longer. In a 2000w continuous inverter you get a 100amp charger. The '83 dash light problem could be quite expensive. The dash surface contains an Electro-Luminescent inlay (EL), which is powered by a small inverter below the dash. Access is easiest via the outside panel with the Left windshield wiper on it. The panel tself I'm told runs around $2000, if it is bad (maybe someone drilled a hole through it for a switch) you might elect to get a map-light which fits into your cigarette lighter (available from campingworld or westmarine). I see no down-side to changing the 5.29:1 NA rear end out to a 4.63:1, except price. This change will probably cost around $1500 if your old gears and bearings are good, assuming that you can fit them in the pumpkin. You will lose hill-climbing performanc , but gain fuel mileage and engine life (or speed, your choice). You will probably not recover the investment in fuel mileage. If you need tires, you might look at buying used 24.5 wheels and new tires to gain speed instead.

Jeff - 12/08/00 00:03:42
My Email:jamiller@iserv.net
Subject: Oil, redi-line, chargers, and dash-lights

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Bob Dilks - 12/07/00 01:18:20
My Email:bjmd@texoma-ok.com
Subject: Mirrors

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Does anyone know the inner workings of the IKI mirrors used on the 1980's Blue Birds. I have removed the allen set screw, spring and plunger from the arm but it will not move. I have unscrewed the top cover on the arm socket and the arm seems to be held on by a nut whose shoulders may have rusted off. Can anyone help?

Bob Dilks - 12/06/00 14:01:05
My Email:bjmd@texoma-ok.com
Subject: Chargers

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I have used two StatPower True Charge 40 Amp Plus chargers for the last year. These chargers are the absolute last word in charger technology, "switcher technology", and are probably the only chargers that actually "charge" a battery, others only providi g current to the battery and calling the process charging. Each StatPower True Charge 40 Pluse will charge a 440 amp hour battey bank and since you have six 6 volt golf cart batteries (or three 12 volt equivalents) producing 660 amp hours of capacity you should probably have two chargers although one StatPower may do the job. Don't worry about replacing two 50 amp ferro/resonant (factory original)chargers with two StatPower 40 amp units because factory testing showed the two original 50 amp chargers only provided 57 amps of current to the batteries. You can expect the StatPower's to deliver full amperage. StatPower's have selectable different charging rates for flooded cell, gel cell and the new AGM batteries and compensate for the battery temperature. The big advantage of Statpower is they only charge the batteries when the batteries require charging and never over charge. These chargers are expensive compared to others and you can find them at Camping World or call StatPower at 800/670-0707.

Jeff Reed - 12/05/00 16:07:31
My Email:jreed@skylinetrans.com
Subject: Rear End Swap

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I have a '82 35'FC with the 3208 Cat Non-Turbo. I am contemplating swapping the 5.29 rear end for a 4.65 or 4.63 ratio in order to increase cruising speed. Has anyone done this or are there any major reasons not to do this. Thanks in advance for any info

John Stiles - 12/05/00 13:04:58
My Email:csjbs@emory.edu
Subject: Redi-Line Generator

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Anyone out there still using their Redi-Line generators? I know inverters are probably the better route but I am just curious if anyone is using their Redi-Line unit that was built in. John

R.C. Crawford - 12/04/00 03:58:34
My Email:scooter@alaska.net
Subject: Battery chargers

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Both 50 amp battery chargers on my 85,PT40 need to be replaced.I need recomendations and a source if anyone can help. Thans R. C.

Bob Overlock - 12/01/00 20:20:48
My Email:overlock@hawaiian.net
Subject: Dash panel lights

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We have an '83FC Wanderlodge with one dash light out on the right side of the dashboard. It makes it very difficult to identify switches while driving at night. I can not see how to replace the bulb that provide lights for the dashboard. How does one gain access to the back of the panel? Thanks in advance for any help. Bob Overlock

Bob Dilks - 11/30/00 21:19:42
My Email:bjmd@texoma-ok.com
Subject: Coach electrical

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Bruce: You have discovered you need both 30 amp connections to have power throughout the coach or one 50 amp connection because the wiring is divided into legs. A single 30 amp, 120 volt connection provides 3,600 watts of power (30 amps X 120 volts = 3,600 watts and two of the same connections produce 7,200 watts of power. But a 50 amp connection (so called) produces 12,000 watts of power because 50 amp service contains two 120 volt wires, each capable of carrying 50 amps of current (50 X 120 X 2 = 12,000)so tha you actually have 100 amp, 120 volt service (100 X 120 = 12,0000). Tie up to 50 amp service whenever you can and use a 30 amp connector to you 50 amp cord when you can't, but remember, 50 amp service is more than three times more powerful than 30 amp se vice. Bob Dilks 580/564-3517

John Stiles - 11/28/00 12:24:20
My Email:csjbs@emory.edu
Subject: fuse location (ans.)

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Have you tried looking in the overhead compartment above the dash? Thats where quite a few fuses and breakers are located. Something else to look at is the large round plugs on either side of the overhead breaker panel. I think they are called "cannon lugs" (?). Anyhow, sometimes I lose my bathroom lights so I have to open up that overhead compartment and unscrew the large cannon plug on the left, wiggle it a little and then retighten it. It works everytime. It seems that the pin contacts within the plug develop a little corrosion or something and they need to be moved around a little to make good contact again.

Mike Wathen - 11/28/00 02:22:35
My Email:scootnbluebird@hotmail.com
Subject: Fuse Location

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The combination light and vent fan in living room plus the lights in the control panel over driver's head don't work (although they did recently)--in our 1980 Wanderlodge FC. I assume it is a fuse but can't find where the fuses are located. Our manual h sn't been any help in locating them. Can anyone point me in the right direction.

Bob Trafton - 11/26/00 18:06:24
My Email:mrtrafton@usa.net
Subject: Rear Parking Lights

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Where can I purchase the rear Parking Lights that are in the rear bumper. Blue Bird wants $ 100.00 per light plus shipping I need two for my l991 SP.

Dennis Lovin - 11/26/00 01:16:41
My Email:DLovin5528@aol.com
Subject: Vintage '66 Bird

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Just looked at a vintage 1966 Blue Bird 31' coach. Mostly original, except the gas engine has been replaced with a NA3208 Cat and Allison 4 speed tranny. The interior is in fairly good condition for a 34 year old, and the exterior has been recently repa nted in white. The asking price is $15,950, and it needs rubber all around. Might I be walking into an expensive nightmare or a lot of retro fun? What do you think? Dennis and Luanne Lovin Chula Vista, CA

Roy Robertson - 11/23/00 22:19:51
My Email:smrobe1@iopener
Subject: screen door

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We have an PT38 1986 coach and we want to install a screen door to keep pets in and bugs out. We bought it last March at Pamona Ca.and were told by Holland Motor Homes that one is`nt available. We live in San Francisco area. Thanks for any help.Roy Robert on.

Roy Robertson - 11/23/00 22:19:42
My Email:smrobe1@iopener
Subject: screen door

Dennis Lovin - 11/23/00 02:42:38
My Email:DLovin5528@aol.com
Subject: Paint

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We'll be looking at an '82 FC-35 Friday--just got a call from Holland Motorhomes in San Diego. The bird is a trade-in, and our salesman (Dean) says it needs paint, but the owner has spent $12,000 recently on taking care of the unit. What does "needs pai t" mean in dollars? Anything else this might mean? Thanks for your advice. Hope to be a member of the vintage bird clan soon. Dennis and Luanne in Chula Vista, CA

Darryl - 11/21/00 22:06:22
My Email:dervatl@yahoo.com
Subject: fuel mileage

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What can be expected (fuel mileage wise) on a 75 bird with the Ford 534? Is it really as bad as some say (i.e. 3 mpg)? Thanks.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito - 11/21/00 15:51:55
My Email:102331.3205@compuserve.com
Subject: Bendix cruise control

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I have been diagnosing my Bendix unit which will not engage. All checks of the system went good till the last, indicating a failed module. Anyone have a source for a used unit or even a new one sitting in an inventory. Bendix informs me that they quit roduction in 1995. Thanks R.E. (Ron) Marabito 1983 PT-40 Wanderlodge

JACK MURTA - 11/19/00 17:44:00
My Email:jamurta@hotmail.com
Subject: Used Bird

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I am in the market for a used "Bird" from a 1979 to 1981, 33'to 35'. I have had a 34' Pacearrow and I'm convinced that a "Bird" is a much better and safer investment. I live in southern Ontario, Canada, and the selection of "Birds" appears limited, also there is that nasty US exchange rate of $158.00 Cananian (Pecos) for one hundred US dollars.I know, my problem, but if someone out there knows of a coach in very good condition, and is for sale for a fair price, please contact me at jamurta@hotmail.com, Thanks.

D Spithaler - 11/18/00 18:00:38
My Email:dspithaler@aol.com
Subject: Oil- CAT 3208 NA

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I was wanting to know if the 15w 40 motor oil is good for the 3208 Na? Most of it is not labeled for for the older ones. Don

Bruce Morris - 11/17/00 16:19:57
My Email:BAMNC@aol.com
Subject: Duo-Therm Penquin A/C units

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John . . . I have Duo-Therm Penquin units on my Country Coach and have been very pleased with them. They are low profile and are much quieter than my previous Coleman A/C's. Mine also have two fan speeds and they automatically change speeds and/or cut o f the fans based on the ambient temperature and the thermostat setting. The filters are easy to remove and clean - no screws to remove, they snap in and out. I also have the heat strips and use them. They work fine. As you can tell, my experience has een positive.

John Stiles - 11/17/00 13:49:44
My Email:csjbs@emory.edu
Subject: survey

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I need to replace both of my roof air conditioners which currently are Coleman units. I am not necessarily committed to going back with Coleman and have in fact been taking an interested eye toward the Duo-Therm "Penguin" units. This is my second motorh me with Coleman air conditioners but I do not have any experience with Duo-Therm. I would appreciate any experience based feedback on either brand hopefully with enough responses I can make a good comparason and make a final deci$$ion. Thanks for your help.....

Bruce Morris - 11/14/00 04:16:45
My Email:BAMNC@aol.com
Subject: The "BIG WHEELS"

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I see comments in ads that their Bird has the BIG WHEELS. What does that mean? What difference does it make? I presume they are something bigger than the 11R22.5 that are on our Bird. Learning curve is still steep!

Warren Coook - 11/14/00 01:34:18
My Email:HOTFOOT2@AOL.COM
Subject: selling your Bird

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A few months ago, I posted my Bird on the site, at a LOW price, simply because I did need BOTH the Bird and a new, for me, Eagle...I have never seen so many people that wanted to grind me on price ($25K for a '79 w/ 35K on the engine)...There was little t lk about the qualities of the coach, and I came to the conclusion that these were all people wanting to move up from the plastic coaches that are on the market, but unwilling or unable to pay for the worth of a genuine first - rate coach...These people ar not 'Bird - quality people, and, rather than go down from my already $10K under price, I am just keeping my old Bird as a spare...Too bad not everyone knows how exceptional these old girls are...

Ernie Ekberg - 11/13/00 15:54:02
My Email:erniecarpet@aol.com
Subject: air dryer

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It wasn't the purge valve on the dryer after all. It was the AD2 air governor on the compressor stuck in the open or purge mode. Whew- what a time trying to find this. If your dryer starts purging and does not stop and will not allow you to pressurize thi is the baby that is more than likely the culprit. Took 30 minutes with easy access. We are off to Florida for Thanksgiving. We have a lot to be thankful for- especially to folks that have been kind enough to share their time and knowledge with us laymen. Happy Thanksgiving to all.

j murta - 11/13/00 05:06:40
My Email:jamurta@hotmail.com
Subject: for sale

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How often does the "For Sale" link get updated?? I have been looking for all info on "Birds" and have used your site for as a guide, but the For Sale site has not been changed for some time now. Thank you.

Bruce Borneman - 11/13/00 04:02:19
My Email:borneman@grantspass.com
Subject: Remodeling 1987 FC-35

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I have a 1987 FC-35 and am considering trying to re-model the interior some. In addition to fabric changes for the sofa & dinette (also thinking about replacing front chair with another sofa) I was wondering if anyone has replaced the white vinyl walls w th paneling? Any tips on how you attached and trimmed around the windows would be helpful. Also, is there any way to make the ceiling more flat like newer coaches? As long as I am asking, how about lightening up the dark wood grain formica on the hall alls? I have average carpenter skills, but am not a pro. Trading for a newer coach is not in our budget, so sprucing up the old girl is something we are considering. Any suggestions or ideas would be appreciated - Thanks.

Bruce Borneman - 11/13/00 04:01:46
My Email:borneman@grantspass.com
Subject: Remodeling 1987 FC-35

GENE MORACE - 11/13/00 01:19:47
My Email:MORACE2000@YAHOO.COM
Subject: PULLING A VEHICLE vs A CAR HAULER

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FOR ANYONE WHO HAS TRIED BOTH, PLEASE GIVE THE POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES TO THE ABOVE SUBJECTS. THANKS

George Kremer - 11/12/00 15:37:03
My Email:ssohni@frontiernet.net
Subject: Tire Advice-'83-40'

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Prior to leaving for winter, want to replace all tires on my coach. Had a front tire blow-out in Spring and do not want to take chance on another. Believe it is time. (Plenty of tread-but probably dry rotted.) What advice does anyone have to offer with regard to brand, pricing, type, etc. Any input appreciated. Thanks

Ernie Ekberg - 11/11/00 23:11:14
My Email:erniecarpet@aol.com
Subject: air dryer

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I put a new purge valve in my air dryer just like the book says but air is still coming out the bottom. Torqued it like it said. No luck. The only other subject on this was Jim Scoggins for his PT40. Mine is an 84 35FC. I'm at a dead end cause I can't pre surize to take it to anybody. Thanks for any ideas.

Eric Johnson - 11/11/00 00:04:03
My Email:esjmaj@bellsouth.net
Subject: Buying a New Generator

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I have a 1984 35FC that came with a Kohler 7.5 KW LPG generator. I find replacement parts difficult to get and expensive if you can get them. I am thinking about replacing it with a Power Tech 10 KW Kubota diesel unit as recommended by Blue Bird technical staff. Has anyone done this? How does it work? Power Tech offers units with and without an external sound deadening box. The box costs more money and the gen set I have now is reasonably quiet but it isn't a diesel. Has anyone installed one inside the FC enclosure without the extra sound deadening? If so, how loud is it? Appreciate your help. Eric

Bruce Morris - 11/10/00 17:04:37
My Email:BAMNC@aol.com
Subject: 83 FC35RB Rear Camera

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When I turn on my backup monitor, the picture is out of focus. I thought there would be service access from inside the bathroom, but couldn't find any obvious way to reach the camera. Has anyone else run into this? How do you get to the camera? There s no hint in the manual. Thanks.

Lawrence Thornell - 11/09/00 22:29:03
My Email:lthornell@eezznet.com
Subject: Harvey Lawrence

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Harvey; Teddy Taylor has lost your e-mail address. Please contact him.

John Stiles - 11/07/00 12:44:24
My Email:csjbs@emory.edu
Subject: 83 FC35RB Batteries

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Bruce, For what its worth we "dry camp" at the Sun-n-Fun air show each April in Lakeland Fla. for two weeks each year. This year we had generator problems so couldn't very easily recharge the batteries during the day but with careful "power management" we ma e it just fine. Also we just came back from the "Rally in the Valley" where there are several hundred 'birds dry camping before the event officially opens. If your batteries are in good shape you will enjoy dry camping in your bird.

John Stiles - 11/07/00 12:28:08
My Email:csjbs@emory.edu
Subject: air dryer

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Ernie, You didn't state what year you have so I can only realate to you my experience with my 1980 33FC. There are 4 short bolts that hold the bottom cover on the air dryer. I had the same problem as you so I simply disassembled the air dryer and found that it was full of "gunk". I don't know the proper term for the "innards" but in short, clean everything inside and reassemble. You can perform this simple task in 30 min. and be on your way. Hope this helps......

Ernie Ekberg - 11/07/00 00:24:09
My Email:erniecarpet@aol.com
Subject: air dryer

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Since I have only had my bird 6 months there is a little problem. There is air coming out of the air dryer-all the time. My air pressure will not come up. This comes out at the discharge hole on the bottom. Help- we need to move this coach. Thanks to all.

Bruce Morris - 11/06/00 19:21:30
My Email:BAMNC@aol.com
Subject: 83 FC35RB Batteries

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My Bird has 4 6v batteries that look like golf cart batteries. I have been told that deep cycle batteries should not be used for high current applications - like starting an engine. Is Bluebird somehow different, or what? Also, the previous owner told e that the batteries would only last 2 days if the coach was just sitting and no 12v was used. That doesn't sound right, is it? Sure couldn't dry camp long like that! Thanks . . . again.

Bruce Morris - 11/04/00 19:22:14
My Email:BAMNC@aol.com
Subject: Accessory switch 83 FC35RB

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Well - Good news! I got my windshield wipers working by fiddling with the accessory switch. So I went to the manual to see exactly what that switch is supposed to do - HA! No mention of the accessory switch! It's a mystery! Mine is intermittent. I ha e a toggle switch under the right side of the dash to the right of the Master 12v switch. Don't have any idea what it is for. Anyone got a guess? Thanks to all the good folks who have sent me emails to help me get through this trying time in my life.

Henry Skillern - 11/03/00 08:08:36
My Email:rockyski@earthlink.net
Subject: Power Cords

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Bruce, the 'Bird's electrical system basically is divided in two halves--the front of the coach and the rear. You have choices in how to power it up with shore power. You can use a 50 amp cord and power the whole coach, you can use a 30 amp cord and pow r one half of it, you can use two 30 amp cords and power the whole coach with 60 amps of power or you can buy a 50 amp marine plug adapter and connect it to a 30 amp cord/receptacle and power the whole coach, bearing in mind that you will only have 30 amp total power available. You can get the adapter at Camping World, Marine supply stores,etc. I use mine all the time with the 30 amp cord when I don't need the air cond. Hope this helps.

Bruce Morris - 11/03/00 04:40:46
My Email:BAMNC@aol.com
Subject: Shorepower 83FC35RB

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OK . . . OK. I know I ask a lot of dumb questions which should be in the book that I can't seem to find. I have connected one of the two 30 amp cords to the Bird (top connection) and it seems to get some things to work but not others. My duplex outlets are not hot. Do both 30 amp cords need to be hot to work right? If so, can I use the 50 amp cord with a 30 amp adapter to get full power within the coach? The book is not clear. Thanks again . . . still . . . until the next time.

Henry Skillern - 11/02/00 15:25:02
My Email:jenroc@ktc.com
Subject: Alarm fuse

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Wondering if anyone knows the location of the 2 amp fuse associated with the burglar alarm on the 85 40ft WL? Thanks a million.

Bruce Morris - 11/02/00 03:34:18
My Email:BAMNC@aol.com
Subject: Local Birder to Raleigh, NC

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1983 FC35RB - I seem to be running into more and more questions as I try to figure out how this Bird works. Does anyone know how I can locate another Bird owner in the Raleigh, NC area that I might be able to talk to and get some help? The manual seems o presume that there is a level of knowledge that I don't seem to have. Thanks!

Bruce Morris - 11/01/00 18:11:48
My Email:BAMNC@aol.com
Subject: Battery Connection Diagram

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1983 FC35 - I seem to be missing many of the diagrams in the X section of my Wanderlodge owners manual. I have several wires in the battery compartment which are not attached to anything and I want to take the batteries out and clean them. If anyone has this information and can let me know I would appreciate it. I will be glad to reimburse anyone to have copies made and sent to me. Thanks.

Bruce Morris - 10/31/00 05:15:28
My Email:BAMNC@aol.com
Subject: FC35 Wipers

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I am the proud new owner of a 1983 FC35 Wanderlodge. It is my 6th RV and 4th Coach, but it has so many widgets I am a little lost. What should be simple - turning on the windshield wipers has evaded me! The coach just passed NC inspection in May, so I am reasonably sure that they work, but pressing the switches doesn't seem to do anything. Regardless of position of ignition key. D esn't even work if the engine is running. Am I missing something that is really obvious? I was so desperate that I even read the manual! But alas . . . no success. Help . . . Bruce Raleigh, NC

L LONGCRIER - 10/29/00 17:43:56
My Email:M1894@AOL.com
Subject: clean bird for 20-30,000

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Brad: check out the for sale section of this url. there seems to be some pretty good bargains listed, and there is even pictures of some, as for places to park, I can't help you there. Good luck in your search, and enjoy your find. Some times you can fi d listings in the classifieds, I found ours on a used car lot in Russelville Ar, so they are out there.

Jim Scoggins - 10/29/00 00:16:55
My Email:jescoggins@earthlink.net
Subject: Freeze 12

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1986 PT40. The chassis air is gradually deteriorating. Discussion with factory reveals it would be somewhere around a godzillion dollars to convert the R12 system to 134. I'm told there is a product called Freeze12 that is compatible with the older R12 sy tems. Anyone have any experience? Comments? Recommendations?

brad - 10/27/00 18:42:00
My Email:bnorgart@pacbell.net
Subject: DWM seeking slender, clean Wanderlodge

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i am looking into buying a used Wanderlodge to live-in as my home so the soon2BX can remain in the house with our children. having said more than you wanted to hear already, who can tell me the best value out there for $20,000-30,000??? also, are any of you from the san jose, ca. area? i need to find a hook-up where i can live semi-permanently until my children have graduated in a few years. thanks to all who contribute. i appreciate it! brad in santa clara

brad - 10/27/00 18:40:57
My Email:bnorgart@pacbell.net

Bob Overlock - 10/26/00 03:23:31
My Email:overlock@hawaiian.net
Subject: '83 FC Wanderlodge fuel flow light

Comments:
We have a 1983 FC Wanderlodge with 3208 225hp Caterpillar engine. We have recently found the yellow fuel flow light has been lighting more and more. Now it is on all the time, even at idle. We changed the fuel filters mounted on the engine and the Rayc r in the basement. Is it safe to run this way? What can we do to remedy the problem?

John Shaver - 10/26/00 02:27:04
My Email:shaverjs@earthlink.com
Subject: 391 Engine Replacement

Comments:
Hello, My wife and I purchased a true vintige bird last year, a '69 FC31. We have restored the outside and are working on the inside. Our bird is currently powered by a Ford 391 with an Allison 6 speed transmission. The engine needs to be rebuilt and I am thi king of upgrading to a diesel. Has anyone attempted this? If so, was it a worthwhile investment? Any input would be appreciated!

gene - 10/25/00 04:53:51
My Email:gene@globalsite.net
Subject: jacks

Comments:
i am haveing trouble with my jacks. when i turn on the switch nothing comes on,no light.no motor, not a thing! i got under the bird and jumped across the pump motor, it runs but nothing again so what is going on?

Donald Spithaler - 10/23/00 00:54:55
My Email:dspithaler@aol.com
Subject: air conditioners

Comments:
I have a 79 Bluebird in bad need of two roof top air conditioner shrouds. They are Frigiking.I was wandering if some one could tell me where to get them? Thanks Don

Les Gray - 10/22/00 00:47:35
My Email:LSKYG@msn.com
Subject: "Swing Out" radiator

Comments:
I have a 1980 Wanderlodge that does NOT have a "swing out" radiator. I plan on converting it for my winter project. I can do it, but would appericate ANY advise, information, & ANY photos - or - drawings would be a great HELPTHANKS, Les Gray

Jim Scoggins - 10/20/00 12:31:29
My Email:jescoggins@earthlink.net
Subject: roof air conditioner

Comments:
1986 PT40. The forward overhead air conditioner has failed -- loud clunk and dead stop. Has any one been through the learning curve -- what modern air conditioner is an easy swap out, works well, etc. Thanks

Mike - 10/16/00 20:34:39
My Email:crosley31@aol.com
Subject: wiring tow car

Comments:
1995 Saturn SL-2. Where do I tap into the Saturn wiring harnes to run my running and turn lights. I have the cable from the Bird and wires are identified for for running and turn. Help would be appreciated since I want to tow the Saturn to Perry.

Ray Mc Donald - 10/15/00 15:49:05
My Email:ray@cangrow.com
Subject: early gas powered Wanderlodges

Comments:
We are looking at early gas powered wanderlodges what advice do you have regarding year and model. what performance can be expected from the ford 391 Currently we have sourced a 1973 fc 31 wanderlodge with allison 6 speed auto that hasbeen well maintained. Your comments are appreciated. Ray

Mike - 10/13/00 23:40:47
My Email:mbulriss@yahoo.com
Subject: Armrest 1984PT36

Comments:
I assume that you have the FlexSteel seats like everyone else. Having just reupholstered the seats in my bus, I can tell you the armrests are pretty sturdy. Kind of hard to believe they both broke off. Sounds like someone was awful tough on them. How ard to fix depends on what broke off. The armrest itself has a wooden core. The swivel mechanism is screwed on to it. The swivel is actually just a smooth stud that goes through the frame back and has a retaining ring on it to keep it from pulling out. The swivel stud is welded onto a flat backing plate that also contains a welded on travel stop. This backing plate is what is screwed on to the wooden armrest core. If the upholstered arm piece came off the swivel backing plate, it would be relatively e sy to fix. Remove the upholstery cover (should have zippers on it) and put in new larger screws, or drill right through the wood and install bolts and nuts to hold the backing plate to the wooden core. Replace upholstery cover. That would be the easy ca e. If it is the swivel stud itself that is broken it would be a major repair. Real hard to believe the stud is broken off though. Best thing to do there is try to find a number for FlexSteel and try to get them to sell you new swivel plates or complete new arm assemblies.

Mark Walker - 10/13/00 17:09:56
My Email:mwalker422@aol.com
Subject: Armrest 1984PT36

Comments:
Both armrest on my driver's seat broke off.Is there any easy way to fix this???

John Stiles - 10/13/00 12:35:48
My Email:csjbs@emory.edu
Subject: charging

Comments:
I was having the same problem with the battery for my generator going dead although I too had replaced the battery. While I was having my generator serviced for another problem the Kohler service rep pointed out to me that he had taken the liberty to ins all a small external charger mounted on the generator slide-out tray. The Kohler rep explained to me that the majority of the older Kohler's that he services have a bad charging circuit (component). He went on to explain that instead of replacing the or ginal internal charging component he just wires in an external charger which is both cheaper and much more reliable. In my case he was right. I haven't had a problem since. Hope this helps....

gene goodnight - 10/13/00 04:53:27
My Email:gene@globalsite.net
Subject: charging

Comments:
i show no charging on the gen. the bat. goes dead all the time all the bat. are new !

gene goodnight - 10/13/00 04:40:15
My Email:gene@globalsite.net
Subject: speed

Comments:
what is the avg. top speed of a 3208na 4 speed A/T 1982fc? can you put a 5 or 6 speed in to get more speed or do you have to up the HP? what about changing the gear?

Rex Brown - 10/09/00 17:06:26
My Email:rexbeardog@aol
Subject: books

Comments:
I am buying a blue bird used need to know where I can get manuals for a older one

Rex Brown - 10/09/00 17:05:40
My Email:rexbeardog@aol
Subject: books

Comments:
I am buying a blue bird used need to know where I can get manuals for a older one

Jeanne Moll - 10/07/00 23:16:27
My Email:coolmolls@jps.net
Subject: screen door spring

Comments:
Probably dumb ???:) Does any one know where we can purchase a spring (its long) for a screen door on a 1984 35ft. Bluebird Wanderlodge? It makes the door spring back to closed position. Any help will be much appreciated.

John Stiles - 10/05/00 15:44:23
My Email:csjbs@emory.edu
Subject: rally question-reply

Comments:
I just e-mailed Ernie with directions to the rally..... John

Ernie - 10/05/00 12:08:09
My Email:erniecarpet@aol.com
Subject: rally

Comments:
We are new members to the Vintage Birds and FMCA. Where is the Rally in the Valley ? I guess I'm missing something.

Gregg Kizer - 10/05/00 00:36:44
My Email:gregg@nltc.net
Subject: Ralley meeting

Comments:
My coach will have my HAM Call of KB9BG on the front of the coach........I'll be up to what ever the group wants to do.......... Jim, I'll be hitting the area some time Sat. for we are departing from Helton Head that morning and what ever time it takes us to get there.... I'll be wearing my holloween mask and I am sure you'll be able to find me in the group...... Regards Gregg

Jim Scoggins - 10/04/00 11:25:40
My Email:jescoggins@earthlink.net
Subject: Rally in the Valley

Comments:
John Stiles asked if anyone else is going to the Rally. I told him I was and that I was aware that Greg Kizer, and Bob Dilks were to attend. The ralley literature indicates that a staging area will be available just outside the gate of the Rally site from Wed- Sat. Accordingly, would the previosly mentioned folks and any others from this web site care to meet there Sat afternoon, circle the wagons, and put faces to the names. For instance, I regularly e-mail 5-6 birders but have only met one of them face-t -face. Am open to any idea, but I propose we could initially identify ourselves to each other by a hankerchief(or paper towel) placed on left side wind shield wiper blade. If you all can't or don't want to meet on Sat we could still use the hankerchief me hod to identify our coaches during the rally proper. Of course. we will most likely also meet during the "vintage birds" lecture series. What say you all? Comments? Ideas?

Sally McKinney - 10/03/00 20:02:07
My Email:dennism@gulftel.com
Subject: Class of '53

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Class of '53-Sally Harrison McKinney-celebrating 45 years of marriage Oct. 8, 3 children; 11 grandchildren; 1 great-grand. Moved to Lower Alabama in '92. Anyone close by? dennism@gulftel.com

John Stiles - 09/28/00 17:30:47
My Email:csjbs@emory.edu
Subject: Rally in the Valley

Comments:
Anyone else out there going to the Rally In The Valley? (October 29-November 1, 2000)

Bob Dilks - 09/25/00 16:12:41
My Email:bjmd@texoma-ok.com
Subject: Rear View Camera

Comments:
Mike: I assume you have an RCA TC2055 camera because your description indicates a weak picture tube. I had my TC2055 rebuilt by Kelton Electronics (504/443-0060) at a cost of $170 and while the camera worked better it was still not up to par. I replaced the c mera with a new Ultrak (KC4500MN) CCD camera with Cosmicar/Pentax CCD camera lens C70406DCPS (4.0mm F1.2) with auto iris at a cost of $430. This is a straight bolt in, wire in replacement for the obsolete RCA. The left to right picture was not corrected on the RCA camera so that when the monitor viewing direction was reversed to look forward from the overhead dash, cars were seen to be passing correctly on the left. The Ultrak picture is corrected left to right so on your monitor, the picture will now a pear reversed left to right. The factory solution to this condition is to use two 30 amp Bosh relays, activated by the ingntion switch, to reverse the monitor left and right coils when the ignition is on so the picture will appear correct when viewing fo ward. Bob Dilks 580/564-3517

Bob Dilks - 09/25/00 15:31:37
My Email:bjmd@texoma-ok.com
Subject: Alternator replacement

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Kay: The current factory replacement is a 160 amp Delco alternator with an internal voltage regulator. The internal regulator seems important to your model coach. I am not sure of the Delco model number, perhaps 1492875 or 190101. The alternator pulley has o be changed for this alternator. From my experience and that of others, you can forget about rebuilding the motorola as a waste of time and money. Cost of rebuilding the motorola is about $365 while the Blue Bird factory cost of the new motorola is abo t $460 with $60 for the pulley. Bob Dilks 580/564-3517

Rick Brainard - 09/25/00 03:56:40
My Email:rbrainar@columbus.rr.com
Subject: Battery Charger

Comments:
I recently bought a 78FC with 30,000 miles. I've noticed while on shore power the batteries don't seem to charge. While the lodge has plenty of 110V AC and the converters seem to be operating... the 12VDC does not seem to get to the batteries, either en ine or coach. Any ideas? Could it be the ground coming out of the converters is bad? Bad batteries? Help!

JUAN LUIS ALEJOS GONZALEZ - 09/23/00 19:01:46
My Email:JUAN552@HOTMAIL.COM
Subject: MADONNA ES UNA DIVA

Comments:
QUIERO DECIRTE QUE EL NUEVO DISCO ME PARECIO EXCELENTE.. SU PAGINA ME GUSTO MUCGO SOBRE TODO LA GALERIA LOS COMENTARIOS SON MUY BUENOS PERO DONDE PUEDO PONER MIU COMENTARIO,EH?

David - 09/23/00 14:08:45
My Email:Kay
Subject: Alternator '85 PT36

Comments:
Does anyone know of an aftermarket replacement for the Motorola alternator (160amp) on the 6V92DD

george - 09/23/00 00:36:00
My Email:gebh@hotmail.com
Subject: 79 FC XV Edition

Comments:
Greetings - I would very much like to find a copy of the original sales material for the 1979 FC35 XV Annv. Edition - anyone out there have brouchers for sale or that they could send a copy of - ALso if anyone has experience with one of these, please cont ct me - Many thanks g.

Bob Dilks - 09/21/00 20:20:06
My Email:bjmd@texoma-ok.com
Subject: Electrical heaters

Comments:
Does anyone have information (phone, mail, e-mail)on parts or replacement heaters for the Martin Industries heaters that were used in the baths of mid 1980's PT models. Cadet Mfg. of Vancover BC (360/693-2505) purchased the heater line but has been unabl to help with dated parts. Those of you with Fasco Cheater Heater Model 2450 can get parts from Patton Building at 800/334-3440 Bob Dilks 580/564-3517

dennis nelson - 09/19/00 02:23:02
My Email:belugajr@yahoo.com
Subject: reengine

Comments:
I have a l977 31ft lodge with a 534 Ford industrial motor. This combination works good and the motor is in good shape, but it is very hard on gas. I like the bus very much as it is in very good condition and just the right size. I am considering repoweri g it with a 3208 cat Turbo, is there anyone out there who has done this or could possibly steer me to someone reputable who does this type of work. I live in minnesota .

Ernie - 09/19/00 02:09:17
My Email:texas.nana@mciworld.com
Subject: intercom

Comments:
Our 84 35FC did not come with the telephone intercom system. Does anyone know the manufacturer for this? I'm getting hoarse yelling for the wife. Thanks, Ernie

Jon - 09/16/00 13:02:26
My Email:nileweed@email.com
Subject: BB Manual 1980

Comments:
I have an almost complete set of manuals which I can copy if someone needs a segment. I need segment 8-3 to 8-12, "general user maintanence data" section of my book. Please let me know if you can help. I am in NYC area and would like to meet other old Bir ers. I have 1980 31FC.

JFORTINO - 09/15/00 01:45:15
My Email:jfortino@freeway.net
Subject: lights

Comments:
Looking to improve the headlights on my 84FC BB. Presently have new reman alternator that checked out okay at Holland Motors and lights still do not seem to do an acceptable job. Present lights say Halogen on them, is there a better, stronger, light ava lable????

Mike Warmbier - 09/13/00 23:38:14
My Email:crosley31@aol.com
Subject: Back up camera

Comments:
Tv woks fine, but in BU camera mode, picture is washed out. I need more contrast. Camera seems to be working ok. Have done the obvious, checked all connections etc. Any suggestions?

- 09/11/00 00:53:54

Comments:

Ernie - 09/07/00 01:33:39
My Email:texas.nana@mciworld.com
Subject: Bilstein shocks

Comments:
I would like to install Bilsteins' on my 84 35FC. Does anyone know the part # ? Thanks, Ernie

ZEDRIC VAUGHN - 09/06/00 04:51:36
My Email:ZEDVAUGHN@AOL.COM
Subject: FAIR PRICING

Comments:
I'M THINKING OF BUYING A 1991 WANDERLODGE AND NEED TO FIND OUT A FAIR PURCHASE PRICE

LeRoy R. Longcrier - 09/06/00 03:00:44
My Email:M1894@AAOL.com
Subject: Air Oil Fill/Retarder

Comments:
David If you have the Retarder, it will be a lever in front of your shift selectoe about six inches long with four numbered detents. When pulled into one of the detents with the ignition on you should see an amber light above the windshiels in the overhea counsel. it should be next to the warning light for your antenna up warning. The way to see if you have the air Oil fill is to look for a black tank in front of your propane tank, this is the storage tank for the engine oil. There is a filling valve att ched to a short hose that is attached to a meter marked in quarts delivered. This is over the Engine oil filler in the valve cover next to the driver. If you have a swing away radiator it will have hinges in the area of the front bumper.

David Crook - 09/05/00 23:42:24
My Email:blackbamboo@earthlnk.net
Subject: Air powered oil fill,driveline retarder

Comments:
We are the happy new owners of a 1981 35FC. We have the two loose leaf binders with lots of info. but, Nothing on the "Air powered oil fill system" and no information on a drive line retarder. How do I know if I have either of these features? That is, here would I look for the equipment. Oh, one more thing; how do I know if I have a swing away radiator? We are moored at Tamiami RV resort in Fort Myers, FL. We would love to hear from other Vintage bird owners. 941-995-7781.

Jeff - 09/02/00 02:26:56
My Email:jamiller@iserv.net
Subject: Floor Plans

Comments:
Jimmy: The early FC bathroom was pretty tight. In '82, the bathroom layout changed to add room, but it narrowed the aisle. There was a "rear bath" model, where the bathroom spanned the rear of the coach, nice bathroom, but it was available only with twin beds an you walk between these beds on the way back to the bathroom. In '87 the layout was again changed, and the bathroom in the 35' side-bath moved rearward a little, and grew again. If you know about what year interests you, I have several older brochures and can try to scan/send you the floorplan page. I have a dial-up connection, so please don't expect high-resolution or the whole brochure.

Jimmy - 09/02/00 00:59:36
My Email:gmasure@aol.com
Subject: Floor plan

Comments:
I love the older Wanderlodges FC33&35s,Whats the floorplan like? Ive never seen inside one. I need a larger bath since my wife and I are wide bodies.

MIKE MARTINKUS - 09/01/00 20:46:08
My Email:BLUEBIRDMAN@BLEAKLEYRV.COM
Subject: "MAX FUEL FLOW"

Comments:
"MAX FUEL FLOW" LIGHT ILLUMINATION INDICATES THAT THE THROTTLE IS OPEN AS FAR AS NEEDED FOR MAXIMUM POWER . IT IS NOT CONNECTED WITH THE FUEL FILTER.

Jeff - 09/01/00 20:24:06
My Email:jamiller@iserv.net
Subject: DD 6V92TA

Comments:
What the mechanic is probably going to do is to set the max. flow a little higher in the fuel rack so that you can get a little more power. I believe that you should get about 350hp with stock 9G90 injectors. You can also go to larger injectors, I believe that N100s are acceptable. If your injectors are worn anyway, it might be a good option. At any rate, turning up the fuel turns up also the heat (more fuel = more heat, just like a furnace) so watch your pyrometer on hill climbs, and watch the engine temp. It is not worth burning up an expensive engine for 20hp when you only climb hills aroun 2% of the time. Depending on the year, some of the air intakes were restrictive. Make sure that you have a clean air filter, and check to see if you have a good open path for the air to travel down from the roof intake. More air is more power. More air will also help kee pyrometer temps down.

Mike - 09/01/00 03:04:59
My Email:crosley31@aol.com
Subject: detroit 6v92 turbo

Comments:
Need a little more power and was told by diesel mechanic that I need the rack set up. It would take 4 or 5 hours. Could anyone tell me what this involves. He said this would give better pick up and power on hills. Thanks in advance

Jeff - 08/29/00 15:11:49
My Email:jamiller@iserv.net
Subject: What to buy

Comments:
For the $40k range, you will be looking at an early-mid diesel FC, depending on condition and equipment. I suggest a turbo for the mountains, the turbo doesn't add much performance but without it you will lose 3% of your power per 1,000ft altitude (about /3 at 11,000ft). Some of the early non air-spring models will outrun and out handle the 225hp and 250hp turbos ('83-86), just because of the added weight on these later coaches, but at altitude the turbo catches up and it doesn't smoke as much up there. I you buy a turbo be sure that it was not added to a 2-ring (non-turbo) engine as these engines were not designed to handle the heat/pressure of the turbo, Caterpillar can tell you from engine serial number. I strongly suggest also that you buy an FC with swing radiator, or have one installed, as these coaches will need maintenance and it is rediculously expensive and difficult without the swing radiator. Also, look for a model with a retarder, I believe that it was standard on the 35' but optional on the 31' and 33'. These FC coaches are very manuverable for their size, we took a FC 31' through many passes and mountain roads and have never had a problem. Many mountain roads that I've traveled have a 35' max. overall length.

Jeff - 08/29/00 14:52:56
My Email:jamiller@iserv.net
Subject: FC vs PT

Comments:
Yes, the pusher is much nicer/quieter to drive than the FC. Does it justify the cost? Can you justify the cost of a motorhome? Drive them both and decide. The pusher will cost more, gets worse mileage, and is more expensive to maintain, but it is much nic r to drive. Remember also that BB produced two wanderlodge pushers: the PT (pusher tag-axle) which is a raised rail chassis with detroit diesel power (much heavier but lots of storage) and the SP (single-axle pusher) which is essentially the FC with the 3 0hp Cat moved to the rear (good performance and mileage, lighter, but the lower floor and fender intrusions limit floor plans and storage, still not bad compared to the 35'-38' PT because it saves the 5' of storage space that the tag-axle wheels take on t e PTs) The SP was also a mid-door coach, where PTs were almost all front-door.

Mark - 08/28/00 20:23:17
My Email:marksteadham@chi-midwest.org
Subject: MPG on 1972 FC31

Comments:
I recently purchased a 1972 FC31 w the 391ci Ford industrial engine. It appears the old Bird only has 66,000 miles on the coach. (?) The engine was recently replaced and only has 2000 miles on it. It is connected to an Allison 6 speed automatic with a 2 speed rearend. It has 9.00 x 20 tires. I believe all of this is standard equipment for 1972. I was expecting better than the 4-5 mpg I got on our first two outings. Is this the mpg I should expect? At 3000 rpm in high gear my speed is 58 mph. Last time I tried running at this speed hopeing for better mpg, no such luck. However, the old bird seems to run a little easier at 3400 rpm and a speed of 62 mph or so. Is 3400 rpm any harder on the new eng ne and/or would backing off to 3000 rpm extend the life of the engine? Finally, I realize the vintage BB is famous for being underpowered, but it seems to be a real struggle to get up a small hill and any real hill is impossible in high gear. Again, is this just the way it is with a small gas engine and a 26,000 pound bus? So far, we like the old BB. It is in fairly good condition. I couldn't believe the fresh water tank was steel. It was full of rust - obviously a poor choice and one of the first replacements. I'm a little confused about the whole coach electrical syst m which seems to be just a part of the engine electrical system. I don't have a electrical diagram of the 12volt system and would appreciate a source. Thanks for the help

Don VanDenBergh - 08/27/00 22:23:00
My Email:herkloader@yahoo.com
Subject: What to buy??

Comments:
My wife (school bus driver), and I are looking for the right Blue Bird for our first. We can afford the 40K + or - price range. I am mechanically inclined and like to work on my hobbies. Any suggestions on what model year to look for would be appreciat d. We live in Washington, and will be doing alot of mountain driving. Thanks

George Kremer - 08/26/00 21:32:46
My Email:ssohni@frontiernet.net
Subject: Musical Horns

Comments:
All Wanderlodge Electronics ... Roger Peterson of PMMI Inc. Drawer 10 Old Ocean, Texas 409-647-4421 For information, etc., on horns, thermometers, etc.

Amanda - 08/26/00 15:03:29
My Email:Smind1@aol.com
Subject: repairs in Mass

Comments:
does anyone know were you can get a BB worked on in Massachusetts or southern NH. there are no dealers around, i have the engine work done at a CAT dealer. but i have some repairs that need to be done. i.e. the TV and primus system. thank you

John - 08/25/00 22:53:26
My Email:Auctionsfirst@aol.com
Subject: FC vs. Pusher

Comments:
I know this may be a stupid questions but since I'm really good at asking them here goes. What are the advantages of a Pusher over a FC and do these advantages really justify the cost differences between birds of the same year? I have been looking at Birds for my next purchase and just thought I'd go to an intelligent source to ask this question.

Harv Lawrence - 08/18/00 01:43:17
My Email:hlawrence@townsqr.com
Subject: musical horns

Comments:
does anyone have the name and address (&phone no) of the companyin Texas that makes the Bluebird musical horns along with thermometer & clocks??

Jeff - 08/12/00 17:09:19
My Email:jamiller@iserv.net
Subject: 3208 & Fuel Flow

Comments:
The 3208 ATAAC is a turbocharged, aftercooled engine. The pistons are different also, 3 rings vs 2 rings/piston. The amount of parts and work necessary to convert (turbo, aftercooler, radiator, plumbing, pistons, complete overhaul, possibly heads, etc.) w uld probably cost more than getting a remanufactured 300hp engine from Caterpillar, they will give you a decent trade-in on your healthy 210hp engine. Try making some fuel injection changes to your current engine, a good Cat 3208 tuner can help you turn i up a bit. The max. fuel flow light is indicating restriction in the fuel filter.

Dave Schoenberg - 08/11/00 05:32:30
My Email:Daves8@Juno.com
Subject: "Max Fuel Flow" light

Comments:
I was driving an '86 FC35 with the 3208TA engine the other day. Several times the "Max Fuel Flow" light on the dash came on. The air cleaner restriction gauge was in the normal range, slightly below the red, and there was no black smoke coming out the e haust. Max boost was about 7 -- the book says it should be about 21.5. Is this just an indication of a clogged fuel filter or does it sound like a turbo problem? Thanks.

Dave Schoenberg - 08/11/00 04:18:13
My Email:Daves8@Juno.com
Subject: Cat 3208 engine

Comments:
Anybody know what is involved in converting an old 210 hp engine to a 300 hp version?

DanT - 08/07/00 14:23:03
My Email:danialt10@yahoo.com
Subject: lighting

Comments:
Recently I changed out 3 of the flourescent lights in my 1980 35'FC. When doing so I changed the bulbs in the living room area to a "warm white" flourescent bulb. I really like the effect as it takes away the blue cast from the cool white bulbs. I thin it is a better light to read by, especially when you are getting to the age of needing more light to read by as I seem to be. The bulb I used is a Sylvania F15T8/DWW/RP.

MIKE MARTINKUS - 08/04/00 00:07:37
My Email:bluebirdman@bleakleyrv.com
Subject: 75 bird

Comments:
berry I have a 76-77 owner manual that should be very close. i'll be glad to copy for you -- call me at 877 247 3594 Mike

Ken Cole - 08/03/00 02:18:33
My Email:kajaycole@iol25.com
Subject: GVWR

Comments:
Hi. My wife and I are interested in buying an 80's model year PT35 or PT36 and are curious as to the GVWR. Thanks, ken

Mario Barrios - 08/02/00 06:26:05
My Email:MarioB@inreach.com
Subject: Local owners

Comments:
I am in Southern Calif and wish to meet other vintage 'bird owners. My coach has been modified and I would like to see others to compare. Also to meet new friends.

Jeff - 07/31/00 00:21:30
My Email:jamiller@iserv.net
Subject: Synth Oil

Comments:
Bob, I run Mobil Delvac 1 (full synthetic) in mine, and am happy with the results. Caterpillar's synthetic oil is made by Mobil also, they claim that it is a slightly different formula (possibly in the label LOL) than what Mobil sells under the Delvac 1 l bel.

lynn - 07/29/00 16:23:19
My Email:llhb@bellsouth.net
Subject: 1975 Bus

Comments:
Sorry - I forgot to ask - does anyone know about what a good cond 75 Wanderlodge should sell for ? I feel we got a deal, but would like to know what you have to say. Thanks ! Please email me.

lynn - 07/29/00 16:19:08
My Email:berry
Subject: 1975 Bird help !

Comments:
Hi - We just bought a 1975 Wanderlodge and need to know where or if we can find a service manual or repair book on this model ? We are new to this type motorhome and need to know all we can about it, such as the kind of motor, what works what, why some th ngs don't work and what all those little knobs and buttons are for, etc !! We bought it as is, with no books of anykind and so are having to guess at things :-( Is there any other 75 owners out there ?? Any great advise you can give us ? Bus seems to run nd drive good, but we need help real bad before we start off on a long trip with it. Thanks for any and all info - we'll be grateful. Please email me any info you may have.

Bob - 07/29/00 15:15:47
My Email:folks@bennersfarm.com
Subject: aspirating the 3208t

Comments:
Read somewhere that there is a fix for the cat 3208t that adds more air to the engine increasing HP, fuel milage etc. Any one know about that modification? Also any comments on whether or not to change oil to synthetic? Thanks in advance. Bob

T. RAY - 07/28/00 02:00:36
My Email:harley4ray@flex.net
Subject: COOLING FANS

Comments:
WANT TO INCREASE COOLING FAN CAPACITY ON '82FC. READ SOMETHING FROM SOMEONE EARLIER REF "ELECTRIC FAN ENGINEERING". FOUND THEIR WEBSITE, LOOKS IMPRESSIVE. QUESTIONS ARE: HAS ANYONE OUT THERE TRIED THIS, AND IF SO, HOW DO YOU LIKE IT, HOW WELL DOES IT WORK THANKS, TR

John Stiles - 07/19/00 11:40:46
My Email:csjbs@emory.edu
Subject: RE: 1980 33FC floorplan

Comments:
>I am looking to purchase a 1980 Bird, 33' FC I am curious about the orginal features on the floor >plan (layout). This bird has a side double in the rear, a fold down dinette, and a single lounge on >each side behind the front seats. Is this anything near orginal? John, I own a 1980 33FC that other than the carpet and ceramic tile in the kitchen, is about original as one can get. Your description of the one that you are looking at is the same layout as ours. If you have particular questions on the layout or just wan to ask more about this model please feel free to write me directly. John Stiles

Bob Dilks - 07/19/00 02:56:37
My Email:bjmd@texoma-ok.com
Subject: Rear view camera

Comments:
The RCA model TC2055 camera on my 19841/2 PT36 has failed after being rebuilt. The overhead dash screen serves as both a monitor and a TV and I would like to keep the coach original. Does anyone know of a replacement camera; do the names Sanyo or Javalin mean anything regarding replacement cameras. Please call collect to 580/564-3517 if you have any information. Bob Dilks

John - 07/18/00 22:08:24
My Email:mymission2@aol.com
Subject: 1980 FC 33 Floor plan

Comments:
I am looking to purchase a 1980 Bird, 33' FC I am curious about the orginal features on the floor plan (layout). This bird has a side double in the rear, a fold down dinette, and a single lounge on each side behind the front seats. Is this anything near orginal?

Terry Neumann - 07/14/00 04:12:45
My Email:terry@ilhawaii.net
Subject: MORE POWER!!!

Comments:
As a wannabe (methinks) I have read the comments regarding the lack of power on the older Blue Bird motorhomes with the Cat 3208 engines. If one has an older model, is there a reasonable change possible to install a larger power plant in these busses lik is possible with most of the pusher busses that have various configurations with the DD engines. Sorry to ask so many questions but I need the knowledge and suggestions to be able to make an informed decision when I take the plunge. Aloha, Terry

McHenry, Donald L. - 07/13/00 00:39:10
My Email:mchenry@bright.net
Subject: Door Chime

Comments:
NOTE: My previous question on the Model GE 861 door chime in a 1987 B/B,had an error in the E-Mail address. I am in need of a hook-up diagram for power and pushbutton. Thanks.

john - 07/11/00 20:05:22
My Email:johnschultz@bigfoot.com
Subject: mario mirrors

Comments:
Mirrors for my 78 are from Sure Plus Man. Co. 1 800 621 2741 for a dealer near you or my terr.mgr. is Doug @8163582193. You want split mirror replacement heads, one 6"x9" #950 chrome replacement head for the top and a #960 6x6 1/2 chrome convex mirror fo the bottom. Better yet, get the newer front mounted better looking mirrors which I don't have a source.

John Stiles - 07/07/00 12:43:12
My Email:csjbs@emory.edu
Subject: ice maker

Comments:
My ice maker recently quit working. It still freezes and when I cycle it through by hand everything seems to work. What isn't occuring is that the motor isn't turning it through the various phases of ice making. Any experienced based suggestions? Than s in advance.....

Mario - 07/06/00 16:29:38
My Email:Mariob@inreach.com
Subject: generator exhaust

Comments:
I am interested in knowing about the exhaust connection between the generator motor and the exhaust pipes. It must be flex of some kind. What is it and how can I get one ? Also, would like to find some original mirrors.

Terry Neumann - 07/05/00 17:38:14
My Email:terry@ilhawaii.net
Subject: A few questions

Comments:
loha! > >My wife and I will be taking a year to travel the country in search of a >new business when we sell our B&B in Hawaii. I have had an interest in >Bluebird motorhome conversions for a number of years. Convince me why I >should get one of these used in the 35 ft range rather than a bus >conversion. I'd like to hear some pros and cons. >Also another question. What type of fuel mileage do you get with the Cat engine. The bus nuts claim 10 to 12 mpg with their DD pushers. My funds are limited to $50k as this will be our first motorhome and we, along with our fellow innkeeper cat will be sharing the space as we do our search for a new place to locate. We most likely will get a Toyota 4wd pickup to tow behind too. Have any of you done something similar and how do you feel about what you would buy if you did it again? As to full timing, w 're not ready yet but do plan to get a seasonal business so we can travel part of the year. Your response to my e mail address would be appreciated. Thanks! >Thanks, >Terry Neumann >

john - 07/05/00 14:59:39
My Email:johnschultz@bigfoot.com
Subject: alt.

Comments:
up and running fine, thanks to jeff miller,Mr.timjg@aol.com and james scoggins(james i need your return email address) I Installed a Euclid brand reman leece neville E-820203X ($179) which works great. Installed the pos wire, the neg. wire and taped off the smaller exciter wire. Still don't know what the smaller harness is for but my dash amp guage and voltage guage works fine. My new reman checked out max 2627 watts and 205 amps.

McHenry; Donald L. - 07/04/00 23:08:02
My Email:mchenry@bright,net
Subject: Door Chime

Comments:
I have an original Model GE 861 door chime in a 1987 BB Wanderlodge and have lost the hookup schematic; therefore, I cannot install my chimes. Does anyone have a wiring hookup diagram for this unit? Thanks in advance. DLMcH

John Quick - 07/02/00 18:29:37
My Email:jlquick@qnet.com
Subject: Steering/Wandering

Comments:
I have a 1982, 35' FC, rear bath. I have been trying to take the "Wander" out of my lodge. After several attempts at the alignment shop, no success! I have just run across a new item, "HOWARD POWER CENTER STEERING" has anyone heard, used or have any first hand experience with this system? I have just received the liturature and tape, but they do not address cost. Any input would be appreciated.

Jeff - 07/01/00 14:21:27
My Email:jamiller@iserv.net
Subject: Alternator

Comments:
John: Buy a new or rebuilt 200amp Delco, 2-wire and mount it instead of rebuilding your old 180amp Motorola. Abandon/tape off the 3rd wire, you no longer need it.

john - 06/30/00 19:44:58
My Email:johnschultz@bigfoot.com
Subject: forgot

Comments:
forgot to mention its a 78 FC

john - 06/30/00 19:42:49
My Email:johnschultz@bigfoot.com
Subject: electrical questions

Comments:
my 3208 engine mounted alternator went down on me and can't get it rebuilt til after the holidays and here I am ready to split on a long weekend. My "old" alternator has 3 wires to the back of it, one +, one -, and the other I presume is the exciter. Right? What has me stumped is the female socket plug containing 3 wires that comes out of the top of the alternator and plugs into wiring that dissap ars towards the driver. Can someone tell me what this wiring feeds?? My guess is the dash mounted amp guage, the dash mounted voltmeter and the ????? Any problems if I temporarily mount a alternator without the socket and not requiring a exciter? this would get me going. thanks for your help, I'm working on this now.

Jeff - 06/30/00 17:43:50
My Email:jamiller@iserv.net
Subject: Dash Lights / Genset

Comments:
Tim: Check the voltage across a dash light bulb (I assume that you mean instrument lights), if less than 12v find out if your ground is good, and your 12v supply is good (also with the voltmeter). Your genset battery is charged from the genset itself, I believe through a resistor pack. It is likely that the resistor/diode is bad on the genset. I feel that a worthwhile investment on your coach would be a good quality 3-state charger to replace the t in 50a chargers, you'll pay for it in battery life, and a Heart Interface Battery Combiner (called the Pathmaker) to replace the battery parallel relay. This will allow the system to charge your genset battery directly from the charger system (house, engi e, or genset) and automatically disconnects when there is no charging while avoiding the .6v-1.2v drop of a traditional battery isolator. Your batteries will thank you. Try www.westmarine.com for these, also www.campingworld.com.

Tim Cooper - 06/29/00 21:52:33
My Email:tc111747@aol.com
Subject: Dash lights/Generator

Comments:
Question #1 I have owned a 82 Blue Bird for about a year and a half. My question is, the dash lights are very dim and I can,t get them to brighten up. I have bypass the dimmer switch and replaced all the bulbs, but to no avail. Has anyone else had this problem? Question #2 I can't seem to keep the generator battery charged for very long. I keep the chargers plug in when the generator is running, but the generator will shut down after a couple of hours. I look at the battery voltage and it is very low. Is there s me other charging system for this bird that I am over looking? I am looking for a full set of electrical diagrams for this bird, (Needing the charging diagrams for the two 50 amp chargers). I want to put this bird back in tip top condition, and I am doing the fix-up one day at a time. Question # 3 Why does it take 5 years to join the Vintage Birds Chapter FMCA?

Ernie Ekberg - 06/24/00 02:23:38
My Email:texas.nana@mciworld.com
Subject: water

Comments:
We have an 84 FC. Had it 2 months. We can get campground water to work but with water pump on nothing comes out of faucets. The pump works fine. Is there a switch or valve that needs help? Thanks all, Ernie

Jeff - 06/22/00 02:57:51
My Email:jamiller@iserv.net
Subject: 12v Master Switch

Comments:
Look under the dash above the accelerator pedal. In some models there are two although I believe that the '82 has only one.

Bob Loomas - 06/19/00 23:11:20
My Email:bloomas@aol.com
Subject: Floor safe

Comments:
Looking for floor safe that came with 1985 PT Thanks for your help.

David - 06/19/00 03:25:47
My Email:blackbamboo@earthlink.net
Subject: 12V Master Switch

Comments:
Good evening, I am looking at a 1982 35' Wanderlodge (in hopes of buying it). Yesterday, it started fine everything ran (12 volt) just fine. Today I brought my wife back to check it out and the 12V system is dead. The digital thermometer and monitoring system are st ll on. I found the explanation of the "12V master awitch" in the owners manual with a drawing that shows it right next to the "suspension dump" switch. It ain't there. The lady who owns it lost her husband and she does not know where the switch could be Does anyone know where else I can look for the switch or have a suggestion. Thank you

Jeff - 06/18/00 20:58:42
My Email:jamiller@iserv.net
Subject: Flourescent Lights

Comments:
Bob: I have replaced several of mine (FC) with lights purchased at Holland Motorhomes with no modification necessary, although they're about $50/ea. (800 221-7197 -- Ken)

Dennis Lovin - 06/18/00 04:01:46
My Email:Dlovin5528@aol.com
Subject: Crazy!

Comments:
We asked earlier if we were nuts, and your comments have been very helpful. We've decided: We need to buy this with our own money, not borrowed; We'll need $15-$20,000 upon acquisition to get/keep things up to speed in the first year; We'll have a lot of fun!; We'll meet some great people; We'll enjoy the BMC and constantly be challenged by it; We'll need about five years to get ready. We appreciate your candor an goodwill! Thanks! Dennis and Luanne Lovin Chula Vista, CA

Bob Dilks - 06/16/00 13:42:46
My Email:bjmd@texoma-ok.com
Subject: Fluorescent lights

Comments:
Our coach contains those beautifully made and uniquely wired fluorescent lights manufactured by LSI of Marble Falls, Texas,whom I understand is no longer in business. As the inverters fail, I have replaced the lights with those from RGM Industries which ork well but often do not fit properly without enlarging the opening or compressing the chassis ends. Does anyone know of a replacement inverter for the LSI lights, even if it involves rewiring the LSI chassis.

Bob Dilks - 06/16/00 13:26:35
My Email:bjmd@texoma-ok.com
Subject: Interior materials

Comments:
Muriel's in Fort Valley Georgia can be a help with some interior vinyl material. Call 912/825-8483.

ron - 06/16/00 02:46:59
My Email:ronhsmith@earthlink.net
Subject: interior fixes

Comments:
can anyone give me some ideas where I could buy the materials to replace the wall and ceiling panels in our 1985 PT36? Also, how about the materials to recover the overhead compartments? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jeff - 06/13/00 02:38:38
My Email:jamiller@iserv.net
Subject: Are you Nuts?

Comments:
You are not nuts. We are a young couple, with three children and bought a vintage bird for different reasons. Mostly safety and durability. The bonus has been how sound an investment it has been (as far as motorcoaches are concerned). We have renovated it for an additional cost of around $10k, and our total investment is still less than some friends with "entry level" pushers, and we have exactly the colors and features that we want and much higher quality. Our cost of operation has been significantly lowe , and the other BB owners we've met have been fantastic as well as factory personnel. Finally, after 3years of use, 38 states and almost 30,000miles, it has barely depreciated compared to friends' coaches bought new and dropping in value quickly. Much of he value of these older coaches is in condition and features, not years. I do feel that it is best to buy a coach with your own money, not borrowed as it makes occasional use of the coach less stressful than it is for those people making payments monthly s the coach is not used. For cost of operation, to some extent older is cheaper, but any coach in poor repair will be costly.

Jeff - 06/13/00 02:26:57
My Email:jamiller@iserv.net
Subject: Wheels/Tires

Comments:
I have six original Alcoas with very good tires (10.00R x 20) from my coach which I'd like to sell. If anyone is interested I'll sell them for about the price of a couple of tires.

Lynn Sinclair - 06/12/00 03:12:35
My Email:ikoiko@jps.net
Subject: Hot Water Heater

Comments:
I have a 1988 Wanderlodge 40' WB. The hot water heater needs repair. Blue Bird said they can't help me and faxed a paper writen by a Blue Bird owner on how to fix it. Well his intentions were good but his writing wasn't. Can anyone help me on how to get t the unit and troulbe shoot it? Thanks, Lynn

Dennis Lovin - 06/12/00 01:03:11
My Email:DLovin5528@aol.com
Subject: Where to Buy/Finance

Comments:
Thanks to all of you (six so far!) who responded to "Are We Nuts?". You are obviously intelligent and friendly folks with lots of sage advice. We went to Holland Motor Homes here in San Diego, saw a couple of great Wanderlodges, and are getting ready for purchase. We were treated very well by the knowledgeable sales staff. Is it better to buy from a good dealer, or are you better off buying from an individual. BJMD said to find a home from a couple who've had the resources to keep an older bird maintained and are ready to get off the road for good--sounds like good advice. He also said there could be $25,000 to invest if you want to completely restore a used home. He advised to spend $500 in a pre-purchase inspection, more good counsel. Dealer or individual? W at's best? The salesman said he'd look for a coach from the West/South since the weather's easier on them than one from a harsher climate. Your ideas? We're going to finance the purchase. What are your ideas on finance? We'll need to stay under $100,000. Should I be setting aside $4-6,000 in an annual maintenance fund now? Looks like the purchase will be this time next year--or is there a better tim to buy in winter? We are looking forward to entering the nest. Thanks for any help you can give--you are a classy group! Dennis & Luanne Lovin Chula Vista, CA

Don - 06/09/00 02:28:07
My Email:Dspithaler@aol.com
Subject: sticking tack

Comments:
I have a 79 bb with a tack that is sticking does anyone know if i will have to take the dash apart to repair it & what does it conect to in the engine? thanks for any help/

Jerry Thompson - 06/08/00 22:33:51
My Email:Jerryt94@batnet.com
Subject: buying/Service

Comments:
I've been looking at RV's for a year and have come to the conclusion, like many of you that a used 'Bird is a better buy than the majority of rigs out there. BTW, I'm looking for a smaller Bird ( 30' to 33'). If you know of one, please let me know. I've gone through the Q&A list (Great!), but would like to ask the list if they know of any good garage/mechanic in the San Francisco, CA. that can check out 'birds? Also can I order maintanence books from Bluebird? Any local owners that have any thoughts, ideas on buying maintaining, please call me at home after 7:00pm 650-342-3809....Jerry Thompson

john - 06/08/00 14:36:24
My Email:johnschultz@bigfoot.com
Subject: windshields, 78 Wanderlodge

Comments:
Can someone help me with a source on my windshields? I live in a small kansas town and my local safelite and PGI dealers are stumped. My windshields both have chips and cracks but are marked "Guardian" AS-1-77, GG M85, 72 03-7 (pass side) Is there a so rce other than BB? Does someone have a different brand of windshield with a number that starts with DW?

Dennis Lovin - 06/07/00 04:04:43
My Email:DLovin5528@aol.com
Subject: Are We Nuts?

Comments:
We are a couple in our early 50s, looking at retirment in about 10 years. Though not wealthy, we do have the means to afford a motorhome in the $50K to $70K range. We love the idea of a Wanderlodge or Foretravel motorhome, but we're wondering if we're c mpletely nuts for even thinking about something this expensive. -Do you find the enjoyment you get from your Wanderlodge to be worth the investment? -Is living on the road say six months out of a year that neat of a deal? -Should we wait until we're nearer retirement to make the purchase? Present plan is to acquire the coach in 2002. -We're solidly middle-class folks. Is this only for the upper middle-class? Your counsel is appreciated! Thanks!

Mateo - 06/02/00 16:45:29
My Email:mateo@lemoorenet.com
Subject: Electrical gremlin

Comments:
Driving down the road, turn on generator to start up the 3 A/C's. All is well until the A/C's shut down but the generator is still turning. Get home, plug into shore power and none of the A/C's work. Replace the circuit breaker (which had failed and co ld not be reset) to the forward A/C and still no joy. The rear two A/C's work fine. Now the microwave and the forward A/C don't work. I bypassed the microwave outlet with an extension cord and the micorwave works fine. The forward A/C and the microwave have seperate breakers. I plan to look at the generator and determine if there is a reset. Do the individual A/C's in the roof have self-contained reset buttons? Why does the microwave not work now although the circuit breaker appears intact? What giv s?

Bob Benner - 05/31/00 20:44:42
My Email:folks@bennersfarm.com
Subject: water in air lines?

Comments:
On the way home from Seattle to Long Island NY, I found water coming out of the switches that are in the pilots area, in the co pilots area, in fact all over the place. The horns seem full of it! Where could it be coming from? I've tested the two air r servoirs and they were dry. I've noticed water venting from below the rig near the step and further in as well. The only thing I can think of is that the air pressurizer to oust the hot water tank was left on through ignorance and it could have entered here.? Any body have a similar problem in the past and know what's up or have an idea what's causing the problem? Also where can I find the running lights at the bottom of the front bumper on an 84 FC? Also the spotlight bulb? On another note, a family member is looking into some lighting fixes for the flouresents (sp) in the coach that will hopefully be cheaper and available. I'll let you know. Bob

James A Fortino - 05/28/00 16:21:45
My Email:jfortino@freeway.net
Subject: charging

Comments:
New alternator installed and guages show little charging being done. Gauge reads at 12 most of the time and below 12 when various loads are put on it. Is there a kit available for a swing radiator? any suggestions?

Ernie - 05/24/00 00:47:40
My Email:texas.nana@mciworld.com
Subject: 84 Bluebird

Comments:
We are the proud owners of an 84FC. I have 2 toggle switches directly under the camera fog switch on the upper instrument panel. Does anyone know what these do? We have operated them and it seems like it was for an accessory that was removed but the switc es remain. Thanks all.

harvey lawrence - 05/20/00 13:06:44
My Email:lawrence@townsqr.com
Subject: air bags

Comments:
I answered my own quesion .. the after market rear air bag system on the 1979 birds was made by Ridewell of Springfield Mo and phone 417 833 4565 call them for the closest co to you handling parts.

john schultz - 05/19/00 16:22:13
My Email:johnschultz@bigfoot.com
Subject: a/c

Comments:
just completed jeff millers suggested change of running the engine mounted a/c compressor off a new 3 grove pulley mounted on the alternator. Great results! takes a 1/2" X 31 or 32" belt. Ordered pulley from local starter/alternator rebuilder. 3 1/2 dia p lley with 7/8 bore. used on some mack trucks

john - 05/19/00 15:57:33
My Email:johnschultz@bigfoot.com
Subject: historical Q&A

Comments:
are there any Q&A's that go back beyond 10/28/97?? If so, how do I get there?? Sure enjoy this site, got my moneys worth the first visit. Have a nice day!

Bob Benner - 05/19/00 14:09:29
My Email:folks@bennersfarm.com
Subject: Air bags, FC 84 35'

Comments:
I've tried BB in Ga. with little response?? So here goes, anyone know where I can get the front airbags for my rig? Who makes them, what's the Number or how can I get them. One of mine has a fine pinhole that leaks and at least that one should be replac d. Probably all four? Anyhow, bluebird sent me to local bird commercial bus co, who is calling bb for parts #s. With all the collective wisdom out there maybe one of you knows the ans. Bob

Dan - 05/16/00 19:20:21
My Email:sunderland@access1.net
Subject: Holland follow-up

Comments:
Last month I wrote about the "after the sale" attentiveness at the San Diego Holland facility. I am happy to be able to compliment Mike, the owner and staff on their communication, understanding, and completion of tasks identified concerning my 86 PT40 BB purchased there. The work included some major systems some minor areas that needed attention. The corrective work has been satisfactory. On some tasks they went out of their way to fix the problems. I beleive any purchaser of an expensive vehicle such as a BB, needs to have the perseverance to work with the seller to come to an agreeable and amicable understanding. This was accomplished and again I applaud Holland for their diligence toward getting his task completed in a timely manner. Dan

Harvey Lawrence - 05/14/00 19:56:11
My Email:hlawrence@townsqr.com
Subject: add on air bags

Comments:
on the 1979 FC there was an aftermarket air bag ride system used on the rear axle on many coachs ( mine included) I cannot seem to find any mfg name or id in the unit. The unit includes two rather large bags, sway bars,shocks, and hooks upr to the rear of the back spring hangers. anybody have a name or likley ID????

Claude - 05/14/00 17:24:31
My Email:aweffa@sympatico.ca
Subject: average mile/gallon

Comments:
I just bought a PT35 1983 (330HP Detroit Diesel)and I am getting approximatly 5 miles/gallons. Is that a reasonable average?

Jeff - 05/12/00 00:11:53
My Email:jamiller@iserv.net
Subject: Lights / Compressor

Comments:
I also installed some real lights, went with clear bulbs though in Hella lights. On the compressor belt, you can remove your pulleys on the alternator and install a triple pully in its place, then run one belt from the alternator straight to the A/C compressor. This setup has worked great for me for years, and if the A/C belt blows, i won't take out several other belts at the same time (as it is famous for doing).

john schultz - 05/11/00 20:02:27
My Email:johnschultz@bigfoot.com
Subject: brite lights

Comments:
just finished mounting 4 new headlights with the new blue bulbs, put 100/85 in the top H4s and 55 in the bottom H1s. If you are thinking of doing this, save yourself some bucks and time and be sure to run these lights off a relay!!!! I burnt out my switch b4 I put the relays in. Bought the relays at radio shack. Bought the 4 autopal bulbs for $90 at 914 923 2525 or ann arbeit at classicgarage@juno.com Found a source for new york a/c compressors as mounted on 3208 78FC, my cost $78.75 FOB. Can someone tell me what size/brand belts(2) fits this unit?

Eric Johnson - 05/11/00 13:20:01
My Email:esjmaj@bellsouth.net
Subject: Erratic Cruise Control

Comments:
I have a 1984 FC35 with a part time cruise control. Works fine at times and at other times won't work at all. Tends to kick out when I hit large bumps on the road. Anyone have this problem? How did you fix?

J Fortino - 05/09/00 16:55:52
My Email:jfortino@freeway.net
Subject: power steering pump

Comments:
I have been told that the power steering pump on my 84 FC is on its way out. This is suppose to be common for this modeland year and that there is a rebuild kit for the pump. How do you know if the rebuild kit or a completely new pump is needed? there is big difference in $

Bob Dilks - 05/07/00 13:32:47
My Email:bjmd@texoma-ok.com
Subject: Compartment shelf

Comments:
I need help in replacing a damaged bottom shelf in an overhead compartment. More concerned with demounting compartment and diassembly than with fabrication, but any information will be a help. Call collect 580/564-3517. Bob Dilks

Mateo - 05/03/00 20:35:06
My Email:moffe@lem10.med.navy.mil
Subject: A/C evaporator fans

Comments:
Found OEM plastic fans that pull the air through the a/c evaporator on top of the coach. They are available by COD from: Thorgren Tool & Molding Co., Inc. 1100 Evans Ave. Valparaiso, IN 46383 219-462-1801 219-462-7941

ernie - 05/01/00 23:28:59
My Email:texas.nana@mciworld.com
Subject: 1980

Comments:
we are looking at a 1980 FC no air bags. what kind of ride will that have? Can they be added? thank you

John Fahnestock - 05/01/00 03:21:58
My Email:jmfjr@bellsouth.net
Subject: 1985PT-generator soundproofing

Comments:
The "foam" soundproofing material glued to the housing of my generator needs to be replaced.The factory will do a 100% replacement for about $825.They will use the same soundproofing material that is used in the new birds. They remove the generator to get access to the housing. Does anyone have any experience on this, either biting the bullet or doing it yourself? Is there a smart way to remove and reinstall the generator without a lot of manpower and equipment? I'm referring to the 12.5kw Kohler with the front power slideou . Thanks for any comments/suggestions....John